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SBG Global Does Little to Boost Royal Sports Reputation

Players claim some $200,000 in winnings being withheld by Royal Sports

Long stigmatized in the world of online gambling, Royal Sports was sold to SBG Global a few months back and many sports bettors believed we would finally stop reading the complaints.  Unfortunately, the complaints have only gotten worse.

"Thirty sports bettors have had their account balances confiscated by SBG Global and Bet Royal (SBG Global owns Bet Royal) in a case that several online sportsbook watchdog groups have called one of the most blatant acts of thefts they have seen. I am one of the thirty which is why I am writing to you," an affected customer tells Gambling911.com.  Names of customers are never referenced on the Gambling911.com website unless specifically authorized to do so.

The individual goes on to explain what the fuss is all about.

"A handicapper in Connecticut who is also a well known radio personality here runs a paid pick service for sports betting. The service is very expensive, but the handicapper has an amazing track record. The handicapper has had a relationship with Darlene who works in the online gambling industry for many years.

"The arrangement is that the handicapper sends his clients to Darlene (at whatever sportsbook she is working at) and Darlene ensures that the handicapper's clients get VIP treatment and fast payouts. Darlene used to work for Heritage, she moved to Bet Royal and took all of the handicapper's customers with her.

"When I signed up with the handicapper's service I knew nothing about sports betting and I was sent to Darlene. Darlene told me she was head of marketing at Bet Royal and she would see to it that I was well taken care of. A week or so after she opened my account at Bet Royal, SBG Global bought Bet Royal.

"At first I was upset about this because SBG Global has a negative rating at several sports book review type sites. But Darlene assured me that she still worked for Bet Royal and she would see to it that my account was safe. I also heard from several other customers of SBG (who have nothing to do with the handicapper or Darlene) that SBG pays out same day and my money was safe.

"Darlene told me that she explained to SBG Global management who the handicapper is, who his clients are, and the fact that we all follow the same picks. SBG Global management said they were okay with that because we would lose eventually.

"Since I am new to sportsbetting and I did not always understand the instructions the handicapper gave I would often times ask the person at SBG taking my bets to help me understand the instructions from the handicapper. There is no way that SBG did not know that they had clients following this handicapper.

"Five weeks ago (the last weekend in Sept) all of our accounts were frozen with no warning and no explanation why. I called and emailed repeatedly to find out what was going on and was only told "your account is being investigated for fraud". Darlene tried to intervene on our behalf and was told that she had no say in the matter. Darlene has since resigned from her job doing marketing for Bet Royal in protest over how her clients were treated.

"We were told repeatedly that their would be an investigation and not to worry. None of us were spoken to directly and we all called repeatedly and SBG management refuses to talk to us. On Friday Oct 19 all of our balances were set to zero and SBG management announced that they had confiscated our balances because we are a syndicate.

"This especially upset me because I have a letter from "Randall" who claims to be in SBG management where "Randall" says he does not believe I did anything wrong."

Gambling911.com can confirm that "Randall" is in SBG Global marketing.  Part of the problem here could stem from the fact that their marketing department is about five years behind the rest of the industry.

The customer continues.  "A handicapper making picks and customers of SBG placing bets according to these picks is not a syndicate. We do not know each other. The handicapper does not give out any "special" instructions, he tells you what bet to make and for how many units. Each subscriber to his service then determines where to make the bet, for what amount per unit based on their bankroll, and at what time to make the bet. There is absolutely no collusion.

"SBG management has made several ridiculous statements such as the one that all of the handicapper's clients were really "fronts" for him and we allowed him to put telephones in our houses. Totally preposterous stuff.

"I don't know what the total amount is that was stolen. I am guessing at least $200,000."

For the past few years, Royal Sports has come under fire for deliberately slow paying winning customers (even though they were all eventually paid), then luring them back with outrageous cash bonuses (which were paid out as well).  One of the issues Gambling911.com had with the complainants in the Royal Sports situation was that they continued playing there even after getting the runaround.  The problem we had with Royal was that they kept allowing these individuals to play there and continued engaging in the same cat and mouse horseplay.  Royal was eventually banished from the Gambling911.com website.

In reading this most recent complaint there appear to be a few holes in the story.  Sebastian (the identified sports handicapper), for example, seems like your typical opportunist who - perhaps unbeknownst to this customer - was most certainly getting a nice cut from his and everybody else's losses.  The reason Darlene left is probably because these players are not supposed to win.  Sebastian has gone on quite the run of late, according to reports.  But we can go on and on about the incestuous relationship between sportsbook and sports handicapper and Darlene's disappearance act doesn't help matters.   The fact that she was working at Bet Royal in conjunction with a sports handicapping service prior to the purchase by SBG doesn't exactly rank her atop those with an outstanding moral compass either.

The player in question is also assuming that BetRoyal told SBG Global about this "arrangement".  That assumption may have been clarified by Sports Book Review, which monitors customer complaints.

On Friday, a representative from that website advised he had spoken to the radio personality/handicapper out of Connecticut.

"I just spoke with Sebastian, the radio personality from CT. He referred these players to Royal. SBG could clearly see how the source and how the accounts were connected. After winning during baseball and winning through the first part of football they froze the accounts. This morning they announced that players will not receive their winnings."

John Walker, who runs the Sports Book Review forum also corroborated the complaints.

"New victims daily. It never stops with these guys.  Its gut wrenching painful to read all of these first hand accounts of blatant theft. Its so hard to win sports betting and then to have it stolen by two-bit thugs is just too much."

Whether Sebastian, Darlene, these 30 some odd players, or the blind monkey are deemed "undesirables" by BetRoyal and SBG Global management is a moot point.  Top online gambling firms would pay and show them the door, especially - if what this individual is saying is true - these guys had been losing over a period of time.

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SBG Global "User Friendly, Not Abuser Friendly"

SBG Global has responded to accusations that they refused to pay out winnings to a group of individuals following plays from a Connecticut radio sports handicapper.

In an interview with Gambling911.com, Senior management explained their position in the matter.

"We won't be cheated!" said a high ranking official in the company.  "While we rarely have to, we do defend ourselves from this type of group play and it is clearly posted on our website: 'No syndicate or professional betting action allowed'."

A group of individual sports bettors are claiming that SBG Global is withholding payments from them.  SBG is saying that this group has won a substantial sum of money over the last few months and that all initial deposits (investments) into this "scheme" have been paid.

"Those who won more than their deposits do not get paid additional amounts," management told Gambling911.  "In Vegas you can't get away with this, why would we allow it online?"

While the player in question contends that over $200,000 is in dispute, SBG Global says it is just over $100,000 and that past winnings by the group were taken into account to determine that no additional money be owed.

The controversy involves a woman by the name of Darlene who worked for BetRoyal's casino arm.  As part of SBG Global's agreement to purchase BetRoyal's sportsbook, Royal's deal was to convert casino players into sports bettors via Darlene.  Instead, she was sending these "sharp players", SBG contends.

SBG Global alleges that the players were working in conjunction with Darlene and a radio sports handicapper out of Connecticut.  One of the individuals admitted that he was being berated by the sports handicapper for not following his specific instructions on how to bet.

"Telling a group of people how to bet, how to play and for what amount, that is organized play and not permitted at SBG Global.

"BetRoyal was a disorganized company that had all types of people getting ridiculous bonuses and betting steam.  SBG Global is a real company that studies betting patterns.  We have plenty of people winning who get paid and get paid big, including customers who have come to us from BetRoyal.

"One guy came to us with a huge balance and kept pounding us but he was playing fairly and we ended up paying this guy deep into the six figures.  He is still a customer with us.  You never heard of BetRoyal customers not getting paid after they joined SBG prior to this incident with the syndicate group.

"We are not stupid.  We know how to identify sharp action by following trends and how a group of people are all betting from the same area on steam plays.  These are individuals who are not welcome at SBG Global and we simply show them the door so they can bet elsewhere."

SBG Global contends it took some time to catch on.  While some of the players in this group lost money, others won big and SBG contends the winnings were more than the losses.  Only 15 individuals were part of this group, SBG stated.  Not the 50 that has been quoted.

"My conscience is clear at the end of the day," the SBG senior manager expressed in closing.  "We are just protecting ourselves and our fair playing recreational customers."

The radio sports handicapper has gotten paid in full, according to SBG Global management.

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BigJuicyOdds Offers Bailout to Those Affected by SBG Global/Bet Royal Account Closures

BigJuicyOdds (which has been given a rating D+ by SportsBookReview.com) states it will credit players for winnings confiscated by SBG Global and BetRoyal without requiring a deposit.  A 20x roll-over (balance must be played-through twenty times) will be required before withdrawals can be requested. Players who elect to accept the offer must contact SportsBookReview.  BJO expects accounts to be credited before the end of the week.

BigJuicyOdds is a new sportsbook using Capilleira software and sportsbook hosting services. Capilleira-hosted sportsbooks were rated as high as C- in 2006 by SBR. All Capilleira-based books were downgraded due to a lack of safeguards for players by Capilleira management.

Capilleira blamed anonymous principals behind both BetCSL (SBR rating D-) and DragonWager (SBR rating D-) for inability to pay players. BigJuicyOdds tells SportsbookReview it also intends to absorb balances from these sportsbooks next week. BJO will be reevaluated following feedback from former CSL, DragonWager and SBG Global customers.

BigJuicyOdds advertises its online poker site on Gambling911.com.  However, G911 incorporates strict guidelines as not to promote online sports betting operations that are in existence less than three years as it has been our experience that nine out of every ten such business fails within that three year time frame.

Many Gambling911.com readers have inquired about the sports betting arm of BigJuicyOdds upon seeing their ads on the site.  We allow some leeway with banner advertising in order to assist with the growth of this aspect of their company without direct promotion of the sportsbook.  There is a risk playing with any online sportsbook that is in business under three years and whenever possible, we attempt to make such a disclosure to our readers.

We are thrilled to have the BigJuicyOdds brand as part of the Gambling911.com family and they have shown professionalism and long term focus throughout their campaign.  Gambling911.com welcomes new online poker rooms and casinos as the risk factor is not deemed as substantial.

"BigJuicyOdds have been great to deal with," commented Payton O'Brien, Senior Editor of Gambling911.com.  "They are not needy in the least unlike some past sponsors who we kicked to the curb.  Here's a hint, they are mentioned in this article."

John Walker of SportsbookReview writes in regard to the sports betting arm: "This is a D+ book that wants to grow. Players will risk time only so obviously its a wrothy deal. Although no one is going to pretend this is an ideal situation. They need to take good care of these players. They will make a name one way or the other."

SBG Global claims the players in question were part of a betting syndicate.  The affected players assert that they were all betting from the same area outside of Hartford, Connecticut due to the fact that they were purchasing plays from a local radio personality/sports handicapper, who had been endorsing SBG Global exclusively.

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